It’s only a matter of time and next time…he will get impeached and removed quickly. Stalling only means that people will remember the Republicans for the cowards they are. They are complicit as they are feckless.
Massie's impeachment would involve no investigation and would have gone straight to the Senate where Republicans still hold a majority, so no chance of a conviction. That would have short circuited a future impeachment attempt.
If Dems do it in the new congress, we can force an investigation, allowing numerous witnesses to testify against Hegseth, uncover how decisions are made to murder people on ships in the Carribiean, stuff that bolsters the case enormously and lays out precisely how evil, incompetent, and illegal Hegseth's actions are.
It will also mean Dems have 250+ votes to impeach and 56 votes to convict in the Senate. So starting off 2027 with aggressive accountability, exposing the administration, and needing to pressure 11 Republicans to convict instead of 19 would be better on all fronts.
The fact that Haley Steven’s was one who didn’t show up says otherwise- pretty lame really. Couldn’t help but wonder if the “event” some were at was sponsored by corporate donors- it’s a worry
Hold on, Daniel. I have nothing against Jews. In fact, coming from Europe, I have a lot of sympathy for them over the Holocaust..
But we cannot, out of pity for what they suffered continue to give them money and weapons (Billions and billions of collars since 1948) with which they in turn oppress other people!
I refuse to believe that Aipac represents all Jews, (certainly nt Bernie sanders!) but AIPAC represents Netanyahu's right wing government and a war in which unspeakable horrors are being committed IN OUR NAME, if we do not object.
Bushwah. The idiot Democrats in the House are NOT smart enough or sufficiently strategic to figure out what you have, Derek (if I may). After We the People delivered for them in last week's election, ELEVEN House members COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO SHOW UP AND DO THEIR JOBS??!!? This lifelong Democrat is thoroughly disgusted with do-nothing Democrat Representatives and Senators (excepting my own reps from Massachusetts, who actually DO their jobs). We will remember your lackadaisicalness in 2028, you idiots! YOUNG PROGRESSIVES ONLY FROM NOW ON!
I’m with YOU. I am so disgusted right now…what a hapless party..and where is Jeffries???? should have made SURE they would be there..no guessing if they have enough votes so you can go to a luncheon or fund raise..what BULLSHIT..
No, he would not have been impeached. This was a vote for referral to shelve the impeachment. The democrats will impeach him when they have control of the Congress.
I called Jeffies' office with the message that if he can't whip his caucus and convey a message of urgency and party discipline to show up for an important vote, then why should Dems trust that he will lead the change voters demanded last week
Exactly! I didn't expect Republicans to grow spines overnight. But, I am shocked that 11 Dems - who hid behind the lamest excuses - just didn't give a flying f*ck.
Sad that we had a shot and still could've had him impeached if the missing Democratic Patronage would have shown up! We'll get a second chance in January!
But we still get another chance and a better outcome in 2027 when Democrats hold Congress. Hegseth will be gone then or maybe he will decide to resign.
It also tells us that 11 Democrats need to be replaced. They knew how important this vote was. They should’ve made arrangements to be at the capital first thing in the morning and avoid the stupid police guided bus which we know was set up by the Republicans.
Just remember every person Trump elevates has to have a “corrupt or sexually deviant history” for his leverage to work. Same idea behind his support for Putin & Netanyahu- Kompromat 🤷🏼♀️
they have learned they can do what they want even if they do get blown out in an election….because Dems always manage to fuck up…you think every single one would show up even for a procedural vote in regard to hegseth..
Brian, I would say that the Democrats have learned nothing from last week's election, given that 10 (Pelosi was hospitalized) didn't show for a procedural vote on Hegseth's impeachment.
Old school Democrats Need to get out of the way. We voted for change not for the same old same old. This includes Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. Both who have decided with the Republicans more times than we can count and didn’t they give the reopening of the government for nothing?
I wish I could afford to be a paid member. However at 77 years of age SS does not go far. I do however wish to let you know how much my wife and I appreciate all you and your team are doing for our country and ourselves. Keep at it and we will keep reading, keep supporting through sharing, and keep hoping this will improve. Many blessings on your work.
My advice to the new Congress (since no one asked) is to send 50 pieces of legislation to Trump. Make him veto all of it. Bring it all back to the House and Senate. Make the republicans uphold the veto or override it. If they keep the veto alive, that's our 2028 campaign: "Democrats wanted food for children. Republicans wanted money for billionaires." (and so on...)
Absolutely! Single issue bills supporting voters issues vetoed by the Mad King will ensure even more blue representation and possibly beat the filibuster without needing to remove it. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Are you going to call out the 11 ARSE CLOWN 🤡 Democrats who couldn’t be bothered to vote? Are you going to call out the INCOMPETENT AIPAC STOOGE masquerading as the Democratic Party “leader” in the House? I’ll wait but won’t be holding my breath.
We will be screaming into our pillows until January. It's like the worst people in the world are holding the reins, but not for long, according to my positive-leaning self.
It’s only a matter of time and next time…he will get impeached and removed quickly. Stalling only means that people will remember the Republicans for the cowards they are. They are complicit as they are feckless.
Had the 8 democrats that didn’t vote shown up on time, it would have been 212 to 211 and he would have been impeached. They are all complicit
That may have been strategic.
Massie's impeachment would involve no investigation and would have gone straight to the Senate where Republicans still hold a majority, so no chance of a conviction. That would have short circuited a future impeachment attempt.
If Dems do it in the new congress, we can force an investigation, allowing numerous witnesses to testify against Hegseth, uncover how decisions are made to murder people on ships in the Carribiean, stuff that bolsters the case enormously and lays out precisely how evil, incompetent, and illegal Hegseth's actions are.
It will also mean Dems have 250+ votes to impeach and 56 votes to convict in the Senate. So starting off 2027 with aggressive accountability, exposing the administration, and needing to pressure 11 Republicans to convict instead of 19 would be better on all fronts.
The fact that Haley Steven’s was one who didn’t show up says otherwise- pretty lame really. Couldn’t help but wonder if the “event” some were at was sponsored by corporate donors- it’s a worry
Strategic yes, but because they all accept AIPAC money.
Yes, please blame the Jews. It's makes you people look so attractive.
Hold on, Daniel. I have nothing against Jews. In fact, coming from Europe, I have a lot of sympathy for them over the Holocaust..
But we cannot, out of pity for what they suffered continue to give them money and weapons (Billions and billions of collars since 1948) with which they in turn oppress other people!
I refuse to believe that Aipac represents all Jews, (certainly nt Bernie sanders!) but AIPAC represents Netanyahu's right wing government and a war in which unspeakable horrors are being committed IN OUR NAME, if we do not object.
Enough is enough!
It's not "the Jews." It's AIPAC.
Bushwah. The idiot Democrats in the House are NOT smart enough or sufficiently strategic to figure out what you have, Derek (if I may). After We the People delivered for them in last week's election, ELEVEN House members COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO SHOW UP AND DO THEIR JOBS??!!? This lifelong Democrat is thoroughly disgusted with do-nothing Democrat Representatives and Senators (excepting my own reps from Massachusetts, who actually DO their jobs). We will remember your lackadaisicalness in 2028, you idiots! YOUNG PROGRESSIVES ONLY FROM NOW ON!
I’m with YOU. I am so disgusted right now…what a hapless party..and where is Jeffries???? should have made SURE they would be there..no guessing if they have enough votes so you can go to a luncheon or fund raise..what BULLSHIT..
At least few members were unable to attend because they were blocked by police in traffic.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/6212500-stansbury-misses-hegseth-vote/amp/
But they knew about the vote, and didn't allow enough time.
Thanks for the insight
Good points
It was 11 Democrats
No, he would not have been impeached. This was a vote for referral to shelve the impeachment. The democrats will impeach him when they have control of the Congress.
I called Jeffies' office with the message that if he can't whip his caucus and convey a message of urgency and party discipline to show up for an important vote, then why should Dems trust that he will lead the change voters demanded last week
Well I’m not happy that the first test of holding Hegseth accountable failed because eleven democrats didn’t show up!
Exactly! I didn't expect Republicans to grow spines overnight. But, I am shocked that 11 Dems - who hid behind the lamest excuses - just didn't give a flying f*ck.
Our current government is useless
Sad that we had a shot and still could've had him impeached if the missing Democratic Patronage would have shown up! We'll get a second chance in January!
But we still get another chance and a better outcome in 2027 when Democrats hold Congress. Hegseth will be gone then or maybe he will decide to resign.
It also tells us that 11 Democrats need to be replaced. They knew how important this vote was. They should’ve made arrangements to be at the capital first thing in the morning and avoid the stupid police guided bus which we know was set up by the Republicans.
The no-show Haley Fetterwoman Stevens will be replaced in January. The turncoat would have voted with the repugs anyway if she had shown up.
And another example of ignoring voters: Jim Jordan.
Just remember every person Trump elevates has to have a “corrupt or sexually deviant history” for his leverage to work. Same idea behind his support for Putin & Netanyahu- Kompromat 🤷🏼♀️
They aren't ignoring the pro-pedophile voters.
they have learned they can do what they want even if they do get blown out in an election….because Dems always manage to fuck up…you think every single one would show up even for a procedural vote in regard to hegseth..
Brian, I would say that the Democrats have learned nothing from last week's election, given that 10 (Pelosi was hospitalized) didn't show for a procedural vote on Hegseth's impeachment.
This is intolerable.
Old school Democrats Need to get out of the way. We voted for change not for the same old same old. This includes Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. Both who have decided with the Republicans more times than we can count and didn’t they give the reopening of the government for nothing?
That is NOT True! I disagree!
Democrats will have a better chance of getting Hegseth impeached with both the House & Senate in 2027. We just have to wait a little longer
I read that Nancy Pelosi was in California receiving a Lifetime Award. Not true?
True
Pelosi went to receive an award that day. Another Rep had a medical procedure
Pelosi's in the hospital? Google hasn't heard that.
I had read that. If I'm incorrect she should be held just as responsible.
She is in the hospital! MS NOW confirmed!
The GOP moved on from shooting themselves in the feet years ago. They're shooting themselves in the head now.
Please continue to hold them accountable - Democrats CANNOT turn the other cheek. We don’t have that many!
Yes! Indeed! That is a Fact!
I wish I could afford to be a paid member. However at 77 years of age SS does not go far. I do however wish to let you know how much my wife and I appreciate all you and your team are doing for our country and ourselves. Keep at it and we will keep reading, keep supporting through sharing, and keep hoping this will improve. Many blessings on your work.
Thank you for posting this! ✅ Great News 💙…
So is it cowardice when the Democrats didn't manage to show for the vote on Hegseth's impeachment?
I believe it was indifference and a lackadaisical approach to a dead serious task.
I think it will be better to impeach & convict in January when the Democrats are the majority in both Houses and there will be a more certain outcome.
My advice to the new Congress (since no one asked) is to send 50 pieces of legislation to Trump. Make him veto all of it. Bring it all back to the House and Senate. Make the republicans uphold the veto or override it. If they keep the veto alive, that's our 2028 campaign: "Democrats wanted food for children. Republicans wanted money for billionaires." (and so on...)
Absolutely! Single issue bills supporting voters issues vetoed by the Mad King will ensure even more blue representation and possibly beat the filibuster without needing to remove it. 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Are you going to call out the 11 ARSE CLOWN 🤡 Democrats who couldn’t be bothered to vote? Are you going to call out the INCOMPETENT AIPAC STOOGE masquerading as the Democratic Party “leader” in the House? I’ll wait but won’t be holding my breath.
Wow, anti-Jewish AND racist. It's a far left double header.
We will be screaming into our pillows until January. It's like the worst people in the world are holding the reins, but not for long, according to my positive-leaning self.